What defines a lady? Despite the noticeable absence of "ladies" in hip-hop culture, other perceptions of "queens" are also noticeably silenced - queer subjectivities. After reading the chapter, "Scared Straight" by Professor Marc Lamont Hill, I'd like for you to identify and share specific examples of queer subjectivities within hip-hop culture. Please remember the blog rubric found below. I look forward to reading your comments!
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Equivalent to a gentleman, a lady is the term used to address a respectable woman. A respectable woman is one that carries herself on a day to day bases as a woman. Wearing clothes that fit and aren't showing revealing parts of her womanhood plays a big part in being a respectable woman. Also, knowing the importance of how a woman is suppose to speak determines whether or not she is a lady or not. The use of heavy profanity in every sentence is considered to be "un lady like". Those are just a couple attributes of being considered a lady. These characteristics go unknown or remain silent in the hip-hop culture. While reading "Scared Straight" there were a couple queer subjectives in the hip-hop culture that stood out. The first ever, publicly known accusations of a queer in the hip-hop culture was the MC, Big Daddy Kane. His sexual identity was questioned because of his fight with AIDS. At the time AIDS is a disease known as the "gay" disease. After he had been "outed" about his disease, Kane's image became what is preserved as being a "punk", "fag", or "queer". Another MC Hill talked about was Eazy E. He was also criticized for his fight with AIDS. What stood out to me the most is how Hill analyses how the lyrics in todays raps are aimed at criticizing the sexuality of one another. She uses the battle raps between top selling rappers like Jay-Z, Nas, 50 Cent, Eminem, Ja Rule, and DMX to prove her belief. One specific example of the lyrical outing was the battle rap between Jay-Z and Nas. Nas referred to him as "Gay-Z" and his label as "Cock-a-Fella". He used the fact that Jay-Z label was named after the nations first billionaire John D. Rockafella, who also died of AIDS.
ReplyDeleteA lady is defined as a female who carries herself in a dignified manner and exudes the norms expected in the modern day society. Attitude, attire, speech, manners and occupation often play key roles in what a lady should be. In hip hop culture the lady is often overlooked and thrown to the back burner. Women are either a bitch, hoe, goal digger or down ass bitch, very few times will you hear the term "lady" in hip hop. While reading "Scared Straight" there were many things that stood out to me about queer subjectiveness. How Big Daddy Kane was rumored to have HIV/AIDS and his career never recovered and he stated that he was too sexy to have AIDS. HIV and AIDS also being a "gay" disease and it was preserved specifically for punks, fags and queers. It's clear that being "outed" could potentially demolish your career or existence in hip hop. Big Daddy Kane and Ja Rule being key examples of some of hip hop's once heavy hitters being questioned about their sexual preference and never recovering. The term "Don't Ask Don't tell" is still a issue that exist today. As long as nobody questions or acknowledges the sexuality it's cool or okay. The closeted gay man or "down low" brother in the church, hip hop and even corporate america is still a well known topic discussed today. The different rap beefs from JayZ and Nas to Ja Rule and Dmx show how lyrics and public lyrically outing which is also known as genuine speculation can make a beef more sensitive and could make you lose your street cred and fan base. Seeing that Jay Z is the only rapper who holds a current career but, he is married to one of the most powerful women in music which possibly could redefine his masculinity. The fear of being the homo or queer outed lyricist still exist today.
ReplyDeleteA lady is defined as a woman who has respect for herself. She is sincere in what she says and does. She has respect for her body and does not give it to any and everyone. She is also intelligent and has a vision or dream she is working towards. She is also independent in many ways. To the fact that it would be okay with them if they do not have a man. Which yes is overlooked in Hip-Hop as a whole however, they are talked about in Hip-Hop. In Marc Lamont Hill's article was very interesting because it showed how Hip-Hop culture was very homophobic more specifically towards male MC's. For example Eazy E when beefing with Dr.Dre stated, "Dr.Dre said it aint nothing but a G thang but last album he was a She thang." questioning his masculinity and saying he was undercover gay MC. Which would discredit him as a hard core rapper and diminish his rap career. This would diminish or end Dr.Dre or any rappers career because the Hip-Hop community has no tolerance for gay rappers. As shown in Lamont Hill's article when Rapper Big Daddy Kane came out about having AIDS. This at the time was thought to be only a disease contracted from homosexual intercourse. Although Big Daddy Kane was a rapper with multiple females on his arm was thought to be gay after admitting that he had AIDS. This took a tole on his career although he might not have been gay this did not help his career. Although the rumors subsided his career never was the same after this. The homophobic Is not only in the lyrics of rappers but the everyday conversation of people. For example when someone talking says something that can be misinterpreted as gay they would say "pause" or "no hommo" to allow the people listening that they are not gay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N1_eL71gfM
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I believe a lady is a woman who carries herself with class and dignity. She has moral and values and she empowers herself and others around her. Even though there are few women in hip-hop, i am not sure I would agree that there is a noticeable absence. Queen Latifah, MC Lyte, Salt n Pepa, Mary J Blige and many other ladies represent hip hop well. However, males dominate Hip-hop. In my opinion, ladies and queens are two different topics. In this case, the article discusses 'outing' in the hip-hop community. Outing, an act of exposing people, in a culture where masculinity is prevalent is rare. Outing in the hip-hop culture is a way of shaming people because of what they have chosen their sexual orientation to be. I can identify two examples of subjectivities in hip-hop culture, one being in the song “Same Love” by Macklemore the other being “You’re so Beautiful” the Empire version. Below I have posted them both.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krlxHu6pAA0
“Same Love”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hlVBg7_08n0
The definition of a lady in my opinion is a female who carries herself with refinement and class. In mainstream hip-hop the acknowledgement of 'ladies" and 'queens' are minimum. The term 'queen", however has now transformed its meaning to referring to a flamboyant gay male. Gay males and homosexuality are denounced in the hip-hop community. Marc Lamont Hill recognizes this as he highlights how multiple rap artists promote anti-gay lyrics and homophobic slurs. However, what he explains is though homosexuality is damaging to the masculine trait that is so important to the hip hop male identity it very much exists. He makes examples of Big Daddy Kane and how the gay and HIV/AIDS rumors that circulate around him had a significant negative impact on his image and career. He also makes note of how gay rap groups never make it to the mainstream or gets signed by profitable recording labels. Hill also makes note of how females are able to take on a gay or bisexual identity without being so heavily criticized because the black female identity has already been limited to controlling images. Nevertheless, this article made me think about Love&Hip Hop Hollywood, where there are two men now on the show who are openly gay. The show depicts the struggles of being gay in the hip-hop community, which further supports Hill's claims. I'm attaching a video featuring the two openly gay men as they speak about being gay in the hip-hop community. I think you'll really enjoy it!
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a lady is gods gift to earth, the ultimate being. A lady is someone who knows who she is, in every sense.. No, a lady is not perfect but she chases perfection. Not only does a lady strive for perfection but she makes her man a better man with her being by his side. You can't buy a lady on the side of the street one late night, you can't find a "lady" on backpage for a small price. There's no rent to driving a lady, you have to know yourself and be accountable to accompany a lady. Examples of "queer" subjectivity in hip hop culture are whats for some reason rappers saying "pause" after anything that can sound homo sexual, it's pointless but people feel like it's a must because it's so bad to be viewed as gay or feminine in any way.
ReplyDeleteIn this link, it's a compilation of comments that can go both ways and purpose is to show how much of the opponent is lesser of a man, or even not much of a man at all?
it's crazy because in these battles you can see that even the crowd is conscious of queer subjectives... you can hear some of the crowd saying "wow, no homo, and then if the rhymes are cold enough then they dont say anything they just left.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvFxK3rgalo
A lady is defined as a woman who is well mannered, well spoken, well groomed, educated, and holds her tongue unless asked for her opinion. A lady is also compassionate, nurturing, poised, and has a positive spirit. Most often in hip-hop, women are not referred to as ladies. They are referred to as bitches, hoes, and other disgusting and offensive terminology. Queer subjectivities in "Scared Straight" included Big Daddy Kane being HIV positive. HIV/AIDS was believed to be the gay disease. When the public found out that he had HIV, many began to question his sexuality. In the hip-hop culture, being gay is looked down upon, especially for males. Hence, that is why many male rappers preach and rap against homosexuality. Not only did Kane deal with responding to rumors, but he also had to realize that his career was dwindling and would never fully recover from the ordeal. Big Daddy Kane's situation proved that queer identities did not have a place in the hip hop world. In fact, much of main stream hip-hop shows a hatred of gay and lesbian bodies. "Queer bodies have always been indispensable but typically silent partners in hip-hop's culture infrastructure." That statement is basically saying that the LGBT community works behind the scenes as choreographers, make up artists, hairstylist, etc. In the text "Scared Straight", Hill notes how the gay rap groups are not likely to get signed by major record labels. Many queer rappers are forced to remain in the closet and stay quiet about their sexuality in fear of being exposed publicly, also known as outing. In the video I have posted below, Terrance Dean (author of Hiding in Hip-hop) support my facts of how gay rappers feel that they are unable to express themselves freely because they are not accepted and are afraid of the backlash they would receive. He also touches on the fact that many gay rappers and celebrities are the ones behind the scene, as I stated previously.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHg8deLJkkI (Watch only the first minute and 30 secnds)
Shayla King-Drumwright
ReplyDeleteFor on page 384 of Scared Straight by Lamont Hill it states that within mainstream hip hop culture, openly gay men and women literally work behind the scenes as choreographers, song writers, make-up artist, hairstylist, set designers and fashion experts. This would be nothing further from the truth. Hip hop still only acknowledge the gay community in this fashion. There was recently a hip hop summit that aired on VH1 called “Out in Hip Hop” and there were statements that included that hip hop uses homosexual for fashion, hair, make up and ex., but still not wanting to except them as an upfront artist such as Jay-Z. The reason why this debate was brought up is because on Vh1’s Love and Hip Hop Hollywood there are two gay rap artist on the show. One of the artist is have a hard time coming out of the closet because he use to date women, his religious background and most of all what his family will think of him. On page 392 spoke about rappers that did an anonymous interview that revealed that rappers travel with their gay lovers as they posed as a member of the rapper’s entourage. The rapper claimed that he was only one of a larger number of rappers currently in the industry that were also closeted bisexuals and homosexual rappers. Mainstream (record company’s) hip hop has not allowed artist to live there truth but has instead have encouraged a side show of lies and exploitation, a black face satire tap dance for dolla’s
https://youtu.be/cS6qf_bes14
A lady is defined in my opinion as a sophisticated woman with maturity to know her worth and value against anybodies opinion. A lady is strong with the gift to nurture others who admire her great spirit. Some flaws that have been made by society and even passed down from of mouth to girls at a young age is that a lady never sits down in a dress with her legs open, a lady does not talk with food in her mouth , and lastly a lady does not reveal all her jewels and prize possession her body possesses. Sadly today in our society a lady is not praised in hip hop or even portrayed in a limelight a real lady would be proud to hear or claim. This reading was very interesting to me as well as kept my attention. First Earned something new about daddy Kane gaining HIV/AIDS. When he had came out About this pivotal experience in his life it shook up his career leaving assumptions towards his sexuality. one thing I noticed that hip hop has so much anger and hush hush towards the gay community or homosexual rappers in the game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1s36QHwVRQ
ReplyDeleteA lady is the mother we have, the sisters and daughters we have and are. A lady is one who carries her head held high in everything she does. She’s the one who provides and holds her family up when a male is missing. She respects herself, loves herself unconditionally enough to know she is more than what is on the outside. A lady is a queen who brought us in this world and will take us out. A lady is who has been Hip Hop’s best gift but disrespected, hurt, and its best kept secret weapon. Lady Queens like Queen Latifah who wanted unity and Mc Lyte who just wanted to rock were always around and made greatness but was always received street cred from a far. They along with others like Lil’ Kim and Eve were known about but barely was spoken on. Homosexuality along with being a queen in hip hop only share the fact that they go unnoticed and the “extraordinary discomfort with queer identities the hip hop community” Hip hop has grown so much yet still can’t accept love and the reason why they are here. Marc Lamont Hill stated “current leaders of the Hip Hop progressive wing have also challenged the legitimacy of gay identity within their corpuses.” Rappers like Mos Def have had many times. I would like to leave with a question…
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Media: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8cHxydDb7o
In today's culture, a lady is defined as a women who carries herself with high morality and self-respect. A lady is a very appreciated figure. However, "bitches" and "ho's" receive noticeably more recognition in hip-hop. Rappers even explain why these "bitches" and "ho's" should not be trusted or respected. Also women to refuse to do "un-lady" like things are considered "ho's". If you don't have lady's around and you shouldn't "love a hoe", what are you left with? With the absence of "ladies" in the hip-hop culture, it is almost as if rappers do not appreciate any women. Rappers like Lil Wayne often say "I could never love a bitch", but express their love for their "brothers" (often times not biologically) within the same verse. Also as Hill stated, many homosexuals are often in charge of cutting their hair, dressing them, and managing them. Yet, rappers shun homosexuals. I find this contradicting. It seems like male rappers would rather impress other men more than women. Even the female rappers state why they feel men "aren't shit" or are "dogs". For a culture that is so against homosexuality, it has a big contribution. As listeners we can be naïve.
ReplyDeleteBelow I have link to Boondock's character, "Gangstalicious" song titled, "Homies Over Ho's"
https://youtu.be/_fzuXQF_wIU
A lady is someone who respect themselves.Whenever they are leaving the house they are dressed decent at all times. I was taught that a lady does not curse because it is foul language. A lady has standards and goals, she is a "wholesome" woman. A lady have ambition and drive. Queer subjectivity can be seen in beyond scared when they the people that Big Daddy Kane was gay all because he had HIV. It was amazing that they was not worried about the fact that he was supposed to be sick/dying from this disease but more so that he could have contracted this illness from a man. Ladies in my opinion is not appreciated in the hip hop community because the rappers are always rapping about having hell of hoes and bitches. Based on what I read in beyond straight I think that is because they want to constantly prove how masculine they are and of course making you seem like you fucking a bunch of hoes will make you the man to listen to because you are doing something right. If a lady does not perform how a rapper feel or do as he say she is automatically a hoe or bitch. A queer rapper cannot come out of the closet because once he does his career is done for. Their imagine can no longer be trusted because to sum up the reading they are not "normal".
ReplyDeleteIn this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owYBTFdrvIE talks about how people or other rappers complain abput not liking gay people but rock their clothes, they don't respect them but yet they still use them to some degree.
A lady is a women of her word, she is generous, wise, strong, and resourceful. She is a woman of her word, willingly serves others, and manages her priorities. women aren't seen as those things in hip hop culture though. They are only looked at when they are half naked and twerking for a music video. They are characterized as a “bitch” or a “ hoe” and are respected like a woman should be. Just like the concept of a lady being a lady, queer identities did not fit comfortably within the cultural logic of the hip hop world either. Not only were gay artists ostracized but if it came out that an artist had HIV,even if it was a rumor, their career was done for. For example Big Daddy Kane didn't even have AIDS and people still believed what they heard and because they thought he was having sexual relations with a man, his fan base left and his career suffered. The rumor about Kane brought people to question hip hops most prominent citizens like Jay-Z, Tupac, Ja Rule, DMX, and Dr. Dre. These artists lyrically outed each other but not really believing that they were gay or not, well maybe except for DMX. These feuds with gay banter led the actual gay artists to cower and hide even more in the shadows because this caused them to feel really unwelcome in the rap community. Not only did artists lyrically “out” other artists but they constantly attempted to locate, isolate, and make someone out themselves. This shows that just like with a lady in the world being a bitch or a hoe to the hip hop world, hip hop culture is fundamentally incompatible with queer identity. https://youtu.be/j4kBMIaqOmc
ReplyDeleteThere’s so many ways to describe a Lady, which is one of God’s greatest gift to the world. A Lady exhibits a high amount of confidence, because she’s well respected by many. The way a Lady carries herself is different from others because she’s not conforming to what society thinks she should be, but instead she displays a level of self-respect and dignity that is influential on young women. A lady is a Queen, and deserves to be treated like such. Although a Lady is what just about every man looks for in life, when it comes to Hip-Hop, at times they tend to get overshadowed. Overshadowed by all the talks of bi***** and hoes, it’s easy to forget about the important woman. The Ladies. What is also overshadowed in Hip-Hop, and not accidentally like Ladies are, is homosexuals. Homosexuality in Hip-Hop is a No-No. It was never accepted in the beginning of Hip-Hop and I doubt it will ever fully get accepted in the future. Professor Lamont Hill however, brought up a very interesting point in his writing. When he spoke on the fact that although homosexuality is not invited in Hip-Hop, behind the scenes it’s definitely prevalent. This is the case when it comes to the fashion stylists, the hair and make-up artists, songwriters and even the choreographers. All those positions that were just named are very important and very critical when you’re in the rap business and a lot of the times with those positions, some more often than others, are usually taken up by openly gay men and women. Nonetheless no rapper is going to speak on that, instead they spew anti-gay lyrics as if they were saying the national anthem at a basketball games. Everyone does it. It happens so often, whether they’re throwing the word faggot in there to match another word, or just simply to emasculate another man. Either way the word Faggot nowadays is used almost as often if not more than the word Queen when it comes to Hip-Hop and that’s not anything to be happy about. It’s just with Men in Hip-Hop, it seems as if it’s better to continuously call another man gay or a fag in order to keep yourself looking as masculine as possible and deflect that type of insinuation or characteristic to another man.
ReplyDeleteHere’s a link to Ice T and my Unc speaking on homosexuality in Hip Hop. They’re a little more nonchalant, or maybe not even that but “less outraged” about the topic then Busta. This is probably because they’re starting to see more speculation of “undercover brothers” in Hip-Hop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaTyW_wTelo
A lady is someone who carries herself with grace, she's a person that has enough knowledge about how to be a woman. She's a person that doesn't let things get her out of her character. Ladies in hiphop are often exploited. People only acknowledge their big butts, big breasts, long hair, and skin color. That's not how a lady should be treated. A lady should be treated how you would treat your mother, grandmother, or sister. An example of queer subjectivity is when a rumor started that Big Daddy Kane was HIV positive. People automatically assumed that he was involved in gay sexual activity. In hiphop it's not cool to be gay and to be a rapper. That rumor held Kane back from a lot of good publicity like commercials, etc.
ReplyDeleteA lady is someone who has morals and standards for herself. You can't help but respect a lady because of the way she carries herself; she walks with her head held high. A lady is somebody who deserves the most respect from any and everybody. In hip-hop music you'll hardly ever find songs about "lady's", unless the song is about the rapper's mother; which are hardly ever made. Songs now and days are about "hoes" and getting the "baddest bitch". Just like lady's are overlooked in hip hop, homosexual rappers are over looked as well. Let's be honest, not everyone can be straight. But in fear of losing fans and/or your whole career, rappers have to present a straight side to the world. It's a shame that the hip hop world is so homophobic, but I don't see it ever changing. I mean in that world, you can't be "hard" talking about shooting and gangs, but be in love with a man.
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A "ladie" is a woman who carries herself with class and respect. this means not wear to clothes that are to revealing, being independent, and not being monogamist. This article talks abt rapper Big Daddy Kane and the rumors spread about his sexuality. His sexuality was up for question when he opened up about his fight with AIDs. During this time in Hip-Hop people believe that's AIDS came from gay men. Big Daddy Can had to savage his career by one example justifying his sexuality through his lygicals in his song "Give It To Me". they also talked about the popular artist Jay-Z, Nas, 50 Cent, Eminem, Ja Rule, and DMX who constantly use the world "faggot" and "homo" to disparage lesbian and gay people while at the same time emasculate real and imagined enemies . in the articale it states that gay a lot of gay men work in mainstream hip hop culturee behind the scenes as choreographers, song writers, make-up artist, hairstylist, as well as fashion designers. many mean often use the words " no homo " after as sentence that might be presumed as gay so make sure there sexuality is not question. this video is an MTV News Interview of Kanye West Addresses Hip-Hop’s Homophobia https://youtu.be/sp45-dQvqPo
ReplyDeleteA lady is someone that hold a title for a woman of high social status. she always carries herself in a well manner. A women that head of the household, she known for being polite at all time no matter where she is.she is also know for being the one that was always responsible, a lady hold a title of a wife or a steady girlfriend. She hold a very high rank. when reading " Scared Straight" a queer subjectivity that I saw was the rumor about Big Daddy Kane HIV Positive, when people in the world especially the Hip hop homophobia is a big issue. If your a gay man in hip hop you consider an outsider hell your not a man in Hip hop you will lose so much credit. When this rumor was spend Big Daddy Kane lost a lot during that period such as fans and also publicity.
ReplyDeleteHere a link where DMC talks about hoe homophobia is not just a problem in Hip hop but how its also a people issue as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owYBTFdrvIE
A woman that shows class, and dignity in her public persona is a lady. She is respect by individuals around. A lady is strong, proud of her intelligence. Other women want to be like her and men see he as the woman you can take home or marry. These traits have been some of the quite standers of womanhood for many decades. when it comes to hip-hop culture it constantly lacks these ladies. Its seem that for some of the artist, a lady is the one they personally know (wife, mother, daughter, sister) or they are a peer of themselves in the music industry. In regards to the readings, it opens up about the Homosexuality in hip-hop. In the culture, being called homosexual is a insult. Rapper do it all the time. People in the culture had a hard time when Fank Ocean said he was bisexual. Yet he was working with some of the biggest arts like Jay- Z for "No Church in the Wild" and "Oceans". Hip-Hop is perfectly fine to use gays in order to create music but then turn around and use homosexuality as a burn. Besides, artist rap about they "boy" more then their girls and more dudes are in the women they "stay being with." That would be considerd in some cultures "suspect".
ReplyDeleteA funny example of this homes over hoes in a boondocks episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fzuXQF_wIU
A lady is defined by the way that she carries herself all the way around from the clothes that she wears, to the way that she talks and the company that she keeps. Women and ladies respect themselves and their bodies, also their family and others she may have around her. Men in society today are so quick to say women are to be seen and not heard but a real strong women does what she wants respectively, is independent and is working towards something in life. A lady is and should be treated like a queen because without women, strong women at that men wouldn't be here. With the terms bitches and hoes should not be thrown around and be classified as all women, now those that it may apply to is different because we may have some women that are those names and even women who don't mind being classified as a bitch or hoe, but for the most part women should uplift one another and men should uplift women as well. Society today as all well as the hip hop industry have so many ladies and young men being subjective to this like it is okay. As for queer subjectives, in the article Hill wasn't just saying that gay or homosexual people are queers. Queer can be identified as anything that is completely heterosexual or normal. Although gay hip hop artist aren't really accepted in the hip hop industry that doesn't mean that the "queers" aren't because there are several metrosexual men in the industry that the normative masculinity is overlooked why? Because they didn't come in that way. Like Andre 3000 and snoop dog they are excepted although they are not gay the way that they dress isn't the typical masculine male dress. Nas and Jay Z had beef over being called gay, as well as 50 cent and ja rule and personally I don't think Ja Rule ever recovered his career from that. The public may question some rappers sexuality like young thug but men still listen and play his music in the car, shouldn't it be right that if a man in gay in hip hop he should be able to persue his career if he's good. Like Frank Ocean, after he came out everyone looked at him differently when they liked his music in the begining. I don't think heterosexual men have to be best friends with queers or gay people but they should be able to come out in hip hop.
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